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This is a fascinating and provocative piece. I do think you are unfair on Thomas though in a most stimulating way, thank you. The frustrations engendered by the way he uses free verse are very well observed though I am not as convinced as you are that this is always or usually a matter of sloppiness or over-facility. There's lots to address here and your piece deserves a proper response. But for now I'll just say that I actually like the 'gaunt womb', and I think it's a bit silly to try to take it literally because *no-one* sees a womb: barring a particularly dreadful prolapse or surgical experience this is a crucial body part which is also always in some sense imaginary. The womb here, surely, stands as it so often does for a nourishing (or here, unnourishing) environment generally; for the hardness of the land; and elicits rather effectively I think very basic anxieties. He doesn't "really" mean the vagina because -- if we're going to be literal -- it is not the vagina that does the nourishing and nor is it the vagina that does the expelling (again, that's the womb). And the phrase sounds great.

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this forces me to reflect on the irony of thomas' being such an important poet for me - because I, like you, find a lot of his freest free verse clumsy, if not lazy. you put it perfectly when you say that 'Thomas’s undeniable talent makes it all the worse. It reeks (to use another vivid Germanism) of misused power.' yes, his bad habits are all the more annoying because we know his good habits are great. but at the same time, there is another irony at work in that this most conservative and reactionary of men threw himself into the most brutal free verse and never looked back - like some sort of cultural marxist! we will probably never understand him tbh

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